I’m sort of picking out the parts of the comics that are tolerable/interesting to me XD I mean, what I like about Iron Man (as opposed to what I like about the Tony Stark character, eg. RDJ, movie!Pepper, his mad yuanfen with Captain America, the fact that Stan Lee was actually trying to get you to root for this horrible Republican plutocrat to prove a point, etc.) is the SF idea of why/how/what the IRL impact might be,
SAME. When I read Extremis I was kind of boggled by the futurism monologuing, not because I disagreed but because I kept thinking but hasn’t the series covered this before? How has this not been already hashed and reheashed to death? Because … it’s like the FIRST THING THAT A FANFICCER WOULD WRITE. SHOULDN’T THEY HAVE COVERED THAT TERRITORY IN ISSUE #1. And then I realized … comics =/= SFF so it’s completely plausible that Ellis was the first to get there. XD; (I still don’t know if he was, but judging by your remarks, it’s possible.)
Well, when it started the science of Iron Man was completely handwavy? XD Like it was, “Robots are cool! Magnets are cool! Uh… HEY LOOK TRANSISTORS.” After that it was in Gundam mode for a long time. Ellis put it in GitS mode, and it’s been there since.
PS I re-read the convo this morning and as the caffeine kicked in I realized the obvious reason you couldn’t have an ideologically Maoist superhero** XD; it’s because Maoism is about COLLECTIVE ACTION and superhero-ism is about individual action casting the faceless collectives as antagonistic eg. the whole HYDRA cut-off-one-head etc. which makes it fundamentally frustrating to me because all the really interesting stuff in this universe can’t actually be solved by one person punching another in the face. (EDIT though that actually is the whole point since status quo is God)
** You could have a propagandistic “workers’ model” superhero to instruct the masses obv, which would be, um, basically Steve if he were born in another country. Which is another conversation along the lines of “So uh, did anyone notice Captain America’s positioning on the political spectrum is sort of weird.”
i’ve been following this exchange with much interest and amusement. and thanks for that last line, i am pretty much ded of lol.